Dallas Meet

[Thane]

I am thinking of putting on a meet east of Dallas some time this winter. It would be a combined Powerlifting, Strongman, Oly lifitng meet. Right now we are still in the thought stages. Would anyone here be interested in competiting in it? We would have atleast 2 pro strongmen there, some Elite level Powerlifters, and some members of the US weightlifting team there. I am looking to get atleast 100 total lifters involved. Ranges would be from Highschool, to Novice, to Pro. My biggest problem is getting the meet sanctioned for Powerlifting. I gave up my rights to any APA events, and I never want them back Scott or Tom!! I would have to find an IPA or USPF qualified judge in my area to help with that part. Only want PL feds that allow unlimited gear.

[thegymmuse]

Thane,
Go to; members.boardhost.com/txpowerscene/ or www.texaspowerscene.com/

I'm sure someone will be able to help. Joe Dalton ([e-mail]) is the Regional Chariman for the USPF travels the state and attending both USPF and APF meets.

Tim Bruner ([e-mail] ) is the USPF State Chairman.

If it is up-to-date, Gary Pendergrass is State Cahirman for the APF. 830-372-3396 or 1-800-378-6460.

Jim

[Thane]

I am banned from Texaspowerscene. This is Tom McColloughs site and we do not like each other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please do not bring up anything about this meet on that site!!!!!!!!!! I would rather spend the rest of my days knitting than ever have anything to do with him or his site.

[thegymmuse]

Wow! What a reaction

I didn't have no idea..., in fact, no way of knowing who operated the site and the relationship between you two.

I just run across the sites and offered information. I do not post at Texaspowerscene, so please take comfort in the fact that I won't.

Sorry!!!

Jim

[Thane]

Sorry that was not aimed at you Jim. I know you had no way of knowing.

Tom and I used to train together and I used to judge his meets. He was a good person to train with and very knowledgeable about strength. Some of my best lifts were done under his tooteladge. I had a confrontation with him one day because my son was being born and I was not able to judge for him. The next problem we had was at a bench meet I was in. I missed my first, nailed my second, missed my third and he would not let me take a 4th for a record. I understood this, it is in the APA rules. The next month Tiny was benching and missed 1,2,&3 and was given a shot at 4 and given whites. The bar never touched his chest! Before the meet Tom was telling everyone to come and see the meet because Tiny was going to break 900lbs. I asked him how a meet promoter could say such things before the meet even started, this was not ethical in my opinion. Then Tom moved the head judge for Tinys lift and he judged them. When I confronted him about this, he blew up. Then Scott Taylor got in on it, with only half the facts as usual, so they banned me from any APA events, and I would not give the world to go back to one!

[Tom Isbell]

You mentioned that you wanted multiply federations only.
USPF is single ply ...I think.

The main feds that I lift with are IBP (single ply and drug tested) www.ironboyenterprises.com/

and USAPL (also single ply and drug tested)

You wont see favoritism shown at either of these feds meets most likely.

[thegymmuse]

I understand now. I had to least pull your chain a bit. ;D

What you descibed is what is wrong with powerlifting. It is a terminally ill patient whose affliction was caused by self serving zealots. What begins as an ambitious attempt to achieve that which is out reach for the moment, is justified in the name of being "lifter friendly" when simply it is bending or breaking the rules. How can anyone, the lifter or the meet director, feel good about such accomplishments?

I'm very sorry to hear about the deterioration of your friendship. Nothing but God should come between you and your family (ref birth of your child). I've been trying hard to engage lifters here in Maryland to try and get all working together for the common cause. When we all can work togther and speak without fear, we are emboldened to trust one another and do what is right. Everyone is not going to agree all the time, but finding ways to work things out makes the bonds even stronger.

Try contacting some of the others. Joe, and Tim seem well connected and instead of getting those in the APA involved, they might be able to help or direct you to members of the APF. Like with me, ask them to use good judgement with whom they share information with. I would be happy to contact Joe for you. He is on my mailing list and receives my news letter.

Jim

[Thane]

Are you talking about Joe Dalton?

[thegymmuse]

Yes..., Joe Dalton is the regional chair for the USPF. He also refees APF meets.

Tim Bruner is the state chair for the USPF.

Keep in mind, that the USPF is a non-tested, single ply fed which conducts their meets similar to IPF rules. The APF allows multi-ply and no testing. The AAPF is the tested version of the APF.

Iron Boy is looking to grow outside the SE. Might want to consider contacting James Lopes. That would be one heck of a trip for them, but I'm sure they'd like to talk with you too.

Jim

[pitbull]

Jim,
Just like Tom Isbell has a past with Tom McCollough, I do with Tim Bruner. Needless to say, I wouldn't recommend him for anything. Will not gossip about him, just say that he is not a nice guy to deal with.

[Tom Isbell]

I never heard of Tom Mccullough.


I have had very few problems with people in powerlifting.

[thegymmuse]

I've never met any of the folks from Texas.

I was merely responding to a request for help. And since Joe and Tim are in a position to help, I recommended those names. I don't know them personnaly but endevor to try and get along with everyone.

With that said...,

We all know from his writings on GoHeavy that Tim is quite boisterous. He picks at people and at times crosses that line where it seems to become become personal. I cringe at his twists in gramatical references but in the end, I also note how others prod him too. I'm not trying to make excuses for or excuse Tim from his behavior. But, there is a whole cast of characters who are guilty of the same offenses committed by Tim. And I must admit, a LOT of what Tim has to say needs to be said. He is certainly not a diplomat!

Having been around a LOT of veteran powerlifting people, I've often confused with the way they interact with one another as being mean spirited, when in fact, that is the way they get along. Strange as it might seem, they don't know any other way and I often find myself, once realizing what is going on, relieved that if the culprits did not have one another to pick on, they wouldn't know what to do. It can't be vanilla for these guys. They're like brothers who would be lost without one anther. And because of the openess of the internet, it is out there where everyone can see.

I've actually been inspired what has occurred in Texas Powerlifting. They've come togther to hold some great meets. There is a LOT of great lifters in and from Texas. And what makes it successful, they've learned to work together.

Jim

[pitbull]

isbell said:

I never heard of Tom Mccullough.


I have had very few problems with people in powerlifting.

I meant to say Thane, not you.

[Thane]

Ill give Joe a call, I did not know he was still running around. Very nice guy, we judged a few meets together a while back.